UFO's - Are they real?

[Leonard]

You know what? I do believe that "UFO's" are real. Because, of course, UFO stands for "Unidentified Flying Object". If something is not known, then it is unidentified. However, do I believe all these stories that Pleiadians  and Greys and Reptilians are coming from nearby star systems to abductorize people or to save the earth? Um, no.. sorry, not really. However, I do wholeheartedly believe that there are "demons" which (as the Bible explains) are angels that were thrown out of heaven. I have had various experiences with such "entities", which I will likely post on this forum before too long. I believe that these fallen angels -- these demons, these dark entities are the ones behind all this "alien" and "disclosure" hype, and I for one am not going to fall for it. I certainly wont be trusting any critters that show up from the skies telling me that I have to do as they say, because I wont be doin' jack!

[NightAntilli]

Ah one of my favorite subjects..

I'll start by saying, I've seen two unidentified flying objects in my life. They looked similar. They were both orange, but one was smaller than the other. Or closer maybe? I don't know since it's difficult to estimate the distance of an object you have never seen before and have no idea what it could be, and have no reference point in the sky.

The first one, was in 2006. This was the relatively large one. It was a simple orange ball. It seemed to be glowing. It looked like the color of the sunset maybe, but, up in the sky, and a bit smaller than the "normal" size of the moon, nowhere near the horizon. I couldn't see if it was spinning or anything like that.. I was on my bike (just a bike, not a motorcycle) on my way home, when I looked to the left for a car passing by, I saw it in the sky. It was just hanging there.. I wasn't gonna stop in the middle of the road because I don't wanna get myself killed, so I just went a little further where I could stop, but, it was nowhere to be found. I saw it for like 5 seconds. That's all the detail I can give about this one.

The other one, is just two months ago. It was evening, I was going home on foot, a friend of mine (let's call him B) was with me. We ran into another friend (let's call him D). We stood there for a while talking. Suddenly D said, hey, look at that thing over there. We both looked at what he was pointing at, and it was a very small orange ball. You could almost confuse it with a star (about the size of Sirius, a little bigger), but it was somehow different, and we all noticed this. D said, it's probably a plane at high altitude. Somehow, I didn't believe him, and got the impression it was the same thing as before. I think both of them thought it was a plane, and just kept on talking, but I kept looking back at it. B asked me after a while (maybe 3-4 minutes later?) if I was searching for the plane. I said, no, it's no plane since It's still in the same place. Then we all kept staring at it, and, it simply didn't move, and was still in the same place. We were all wondering what it was. But then after a while, it seemed to be getting smaller and smaller, as if it was moving away from the planet or something. After a while, it disappeared from our sight..

Sure, it's not very thought provoking, or anything special, but, I have two witnesses, and myself, who saw the same thing, and have no idea what it was. The best logical explanation I could come up with for the second, was that it was maybe some kind of flare gun that eventually went out. But that's it. The first one, no idea.

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Now that I told my story, I have an opinion on the matter as well. And also a reaction to the post of Leonard. First, I think, aliens traveling here is possible, no matter how many lightyears away they are. We might think that going faster than the speed of light is not possible, but, that might not be the only way of traveling and our theories are limited.. We have no idea how far along other civilizations might be in other places of the galaxy.

Abductions? I'm not sure. The first question that comes to mind is, why would people make this up, and how come all the stories are similar?

To the comment of Leonard, about demons, that are angels from heaven.. I think, heaven refers to sky or space, in basically any ancient literature, including the bible. It wouldn't make sense for them to say, that they're from the sky, if they were from underground, or a different dimension etc. They could be from this planet, flying in vehicles and the ancients had the heavens as explanation, but, how would that fit within everything else?
I agree that angels/demons and aliens, are one and the same, but, I think, demons/angels are aliens from outer space, or, a combination of terrestrial, interdimensional and extraterrestrial depending on the being, and not that they are necessarily from here only..

The apocrypha offer an interesting read as well...

[Leonard]

I have seen some similar things. Just 2 mornings ago I saw a MASSIVE light appear in the sky. It was absolutely huge. Maybe 1/4 the size of a full moon. However, it seemed to be in our atmosphere. It travelled downwards, slowly for about 10 to 15 seconds, then it made a sharp right, and slowly faded away -- after another 10 to 15 seconds. This is not the first time I have seen something like this.

Now that I told my story, I have an opinion on the matter as well. And also a reaction to the post of Leonard. First, I think, aliens traveling here is possible, no matter how many lightyears away they are. We might think that going faster than the speed of light is not possible, but, that might not be the only way of traveling and our theories are limited.. We have no idea how far along other civilizations might be in other places of the galaxy.

I have not yet decided that the steriotypical "aliens" actually exist (and are travelling here). I haven't utterly discounted it, but I lean towards what ae're seing beinbg interdimensional. ie: Demons. Demons are simply fallen angels. ie: Advanced heavenly beings.

Abductions? I'm not sure. The first question that comes to mind is, why would people make this up, and how come all the stories are similar?

After what I have experienced personally, as mentioned in this video, I am not even 100% sure that I am being "abducted". Sure, my experiences fit the "abduction experience" scenario, but I can think of at least half a dozen other spiritual, demonically driven or interdimensional theories on what could be happening with me. I don't go around saying: 'They greys come and abducted me and took me to their space ship", because even if that's what "appears" to be happening, that may not be the case.

To the comment of Leonard, about demons, that are angels from heaven.. I think, heaven refers to sky or space, in basically any ancient literature, including the bible. It wouldn't make sense for them to say, that they're from the sky, if they were from underground, or a different dimension etc. They could be from this planet, flying in vehicles and the ancients had the heavens as explanation, but, how would that fit within everything else?

Well, I think that the words "space" and the "heavens" can be used synonymously. I don't discount any theory, because I have no proof one way or the other. It's best to be objective in life and fight the urge to latch to conclusions. That's how I go about things anyway.

I agree that angels/demons and aliens, are one and the same, but, I think, demons/angels are aliens from outer space, or, a combination of terrestrial, interdimensional and extraterrestrial depending on the being, and not that they are necessarily from here only..

The apocrypha offer an interesting read as well...

I have a similar thought process, but my thoughts are not conclusive. I have the basic conclusion that Angels = good, Demons = Bad. That's how I differentiate between the good guys and the bad guys. But more than that, I honestly don't know, and I don't see any harm in saying so.

[Knuckles]

I'll probably do a fat post later.  I'm convinced some are government craft, no doubt they got knowledge from the demons calling themselves aliens.  I believe the others are from the fallen Angels or Nephilim demons themselves=directly.  Wheather they have a real physical craft or not I'm open too, but they disapear quick when they are rebuked in Jesus / yeshua's name apparently.  Or do they disapear?   They probably switch plains and dimensions.

I don't think it's the cloaking device like you see on Metal Gear Solid and Predator because as cool and new looking as it is, that is OLD technology, we truly are in the last days.  

I've seen 1 ufo in my life, was day time and a triangular thing with lights was slowly rising next to the moon, I turned to get my mum to look and true to steriotypical clicheid form, it was gone once I looked back.   

[cusanus]

The critters referred to are demons, and they are interdimensional, not intergalactic. The half breeds and sexual activity reported by "abductees" are probably bogus, all deception, or possibly half and half, who knows. They're very powerful in some ways and can do a real number on the human head. The word "heavens" refers usually to the sky or physically beyond (the 1st and 2nd heavens, I would guess). The 3rd heaven referred to by Paul, or the real Heaven, is not a physical place and not in this dimension, but is quite real, actually far more real than the physical realm. So that's about all I know.

You know what? I do believe that "UFO's" are real. Because, of course, UFO stands for "Unidentified Flying Object". If something is not known, then it is unidentified. However, do I believe all these stories that Pleiadians  and Greys and Reptilians are coming from nearby star systems to abductorize people or to save the earth? Um, no.. sorry, not really. However, I do wholeheartedly believe that there are "demons" which (as the Bible explains) are angels that were thrown out of heaven. I have had various experiences with such "entities", which I will likely post on this forum before too long. I believe that these fallen angels -- these demons, these dark entities are the ones behind all this "alien" and "disclosure" hype, and I for one am not going to fall for it. I certainly wont be trusting any critters that show up from the skies telling me that I have to do as they say, because I wont be doin' jack!

[NightAntilli]

@cusanus: If something is interdimensional, it can also be intergalactic. Maybe the interdimensional part allows them to travel anywhere they want within this universe. We don't know that. Of course, this is all speculation from my part, but I'm not going to limit myself in thinking that they are only from the earth.. The earth is simply not the center of the galaxy nor the universe, and I also don't believe it's the only place where there's life, be it in this dimension, or other dimensions.

[cusanus]

Well, you certainly do have a point. In biology we would call that the range of the species. Who knows?

[Leonard]

If something is interdimensional, it can also be intergalactic. Maybe the interdimensional part allows them to travel anywhere they want within this universe.

I agree with this.

[freethinker]

this will explain a lot - if you have time to watch it

http://www.guba.com/watch/3000113495...SA-UFOs-PART-1

[Leonard]

this will explain a lot - if you have time to watch it

http://www.guba.com/watch/3000113495...SA-UFOs-PART-1

Dead link mate.

[freethinker]

try this

http://www.guba.com/static/f/player.swf?isEmbeddedPlayer=true&bid=3000113495

[Ral]

Hello all, I hesitate to post... I see where some seem to have already decided they are demons.  What i know for sure, the aliens are here. Ive seen thier sphere craft up close in the day time. They are Not ours.They are piloted by intelligent beings.      Im starting my 5th year of contact with these Beings that fly the spheres. On the afternoon july 26th 2009 they showed me a different ship, It was huge and silver, perhaps twice the length of a large airliner. Best way to describe what it looked like in 2 words would be cigar shape. After this impressive display i became concerned of thier intent. (Ive seen some of what they can do and im here to say if they wanted to take over earth they could very easily.)Couple days later i sat outside in the afternoon and meditated.I was thinking about thier intent.They are highly psychic and knew i was disturbed about this topic. Well  this is what they did... I was meditating and looking to the skys. I see a white dot where im looking. Trying to stay focused and not thinking anything i watched this white dot float from the sky towards me. About 60degree angle .Often thier craft during the daytime start out white dots. As this dot comes closer to me i take note of the prevaling winds going east are not affecting this white thing coming down towards me. After several minutes i can focus on this white object and see that it is a white feather (glowing white) and it comes right to me. At this time they flooded me with love , peace, and friendship.  It made me weep. Thier message was obvious to me being from Montana, a white feather is sign of peace. Now having said that, this is how im dealing with all this. As i do with any humans i just meet ,they can say anything they want but its thier actions that i observe and take note of.  Ill show them respect and treat them as a friend untill they prove otherwise though thier actions. So im not going to make any predetermined opinions about the aliens im dealing with but rather accept thier peaceful intent and observe thier actions. Time will tell of thier intent and ill be watching. I refuse to let fear run my emotions.   We humans are very hostile and often our emotions run our lives. We kill each other...What is more scarier, Us humans that kill each other or these aliens that are asking for peace?I feel they fear us more than we fear them.Four years of this activity have left me open minded. Are there bad aliens out there? Prob so but i have yet to meet them and hope i do not. I ask for the truth.   Again i speak of only the aliens flying the silver spheres.

[Nexus]

I have an easier time trusting the human who I know wants to kill me, than the peaceful alien who is waiting for me to turn my back. 
Mind you I believe they are demonic and deceptive.  The aliens that is.  Well and some people.   

[Leonard]

I have an easier time trusting the human who I know wants to kill me, than the peaceful alien who is waiting for me to turn my back.  
Mind you I believe they are demonic and deceptive.  The aliens that is.  Well and some people.  

Hi Ral, welcome to the forums. There's no need for hesitation to post. Sure, you'll find people with different ideas and opinions, but that's life. I am running this forum to ensure that people remain as respectful and constructive as possible -- so there's no need to fear difference of opinion and experience. I, for example, have also had a lot of contact with certain entities, and my experience was quite different than what you have explained.

I am looking forward to hearing your views, and anyone else who joins the forum. We'll all get along mate. Don't worry. The forum is about sharing experiences and situations, not to argue with others and prove that they are wrong. So you don't have to worry about that. If people start doing that I will do my best to stop it, because such an attitude doesn't help with sharing.

[Leonard]

I have an easier time trusting the human who I know wants to kill me, than the peaceful alien who is waiting for me to turn my back. 
Mind you I believe they are demonic and deceptive.  The aliens that is.  Well and some people.   

lol @ "I have an easier time trusting the human who I know wants to kill me, than the peaceful alien who is waiting for me to turn my back." -- I agree with this. And of course, I also agree (from experience) that these beings are indeed fallen angels.