Alex Jones and Truth

[Leonard]

I highly respect Alex Jones and everything he's trying to do for the United States and the world. He is watched all over the world and has dedicated his life to waking up the masses to the plans of the New World Order, tyranny and global government. There's SO much to speak about regarding truth, but Alex is so informative and has created so many videos (more than anyone else on the subject), I have decided to dedicate this forum section to Alex.

Of course this section is not intended to act as an "Alex Jones" fan club, but if I am going to create a forum section discussing truth, I want to support his efforts. I want people to see his videos. But of course, ALL "truth" subjects are welcomed here, what ever they are and who ever (or wherever) they come from.

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[NightAntilli]

I guess it wouldn't hurt to express my opinion on Alex Jones. Overall, he has some interesting messages that have a lot of truth to them. But sometimes, some of the things he says, somehow sound like he doesn't really know the details, but only knows part of it and doesn't entirely understand it. This is not a problem, since no one knows the whole big picture I guess, but, these are little things most people pick on.

If you somehow, leave one little opening in your statement, you'll get beaten into the ground by critics for no real reason, and even if the rest of your message is true, people will not believe you.. This might be something he can work on.

I have knowledge of a lot of subjects (some better than others), and sometimes he makes a statement that lets me think, that it's not exactly right, even with my limited knowledge of it. It could be, that my belief is not right, and I question that also, but it needs to connect to the whole package and sometimes it doesn't.. I think this is something he could work on, though other than that, he does a great job.

He's done more than I have, so, I have no right to complain. But then again, I observe from others so I can improve myself as well..

[Leonard]

I know that Alex gets over excited at times, but so do a lot of other people who are passionate. I'm sure he could listen over hos radio shows and think: "Oh, mean, that came out wrong". He does talk for 4 hours each day. When someone is doing so much talking, it's inevitable that mistakes will be made. However, I don't concentrate on any mistakes he makes, because he's human. Everyone makes mistakes. All in all, I think he's a great American patriotic doing both his country and even people around the world a great service. If it weren't for "Alex" stepping up and literally devoting his life to exposing NWO conspiracies, there would be literally millions of people walking around with absolutely no idea. I can't give him enough praise. I admire his efforts, his tenacity, initiative and drive to get things done. Plus, he doesn't take God out of the picture -- but openly loves God. That means a lot to me.

[Knuckles]

I think mostly Alex talks truth, on severel occasions I've learnt about stuff then a couple weeks later you hear the LIE on the news, the ewisted version.  So to me I have a fair amount of trust in himn, he does however sometimes come accross abit fake or excessively hyped.   Gorilla199 thinks he is a freemason, it's possible but I dunno.  More truth comes from him and Jason Bermas than other media in my opinion.

With him loving God I hope so, all I've heard him say however is "The Creator of the Universe", he seems reluctant to mension his name, but never mind.

[Leonard]

I think mostly Alex talks truth, on severel occasions I've learnt about stuff then a couple weeks later you hear the LIE on the news, the ewisted version.  So to me I have a fair amount of trust in himn, he does however sometimes come accross abit fake or excessively hyped.   Gorilla199 thinks he is a freemason, it's possible but I dunno.  More truth comes from him and Jason Bermas than other media in my opinion.

With him loving God I hope so, all I've heard him say however is "The Creator of the Universe", he seems reluctant to mension his name, but never mind.

Gorilla199 is the one that hypes everything up if you want my opinion. I've watched quite a lot of his videos, and he does make sense at times, and it's great to see him declaring that Jesus is Lord, but man -- some times he goes right off on a tangent. I generally like him, he's a likable guy, but after watching enough videos, I'm pretty much off it now.

[NightAntilli]

And what about David Icke?

[Leonard]

And what about David Icke?

David Icke is likable, and he injects a bit of humor into what he says, and I do agree with a great deal of what he says, bit not everything. He is another person, who claims to hate the New Age Movement, but labels any belief in God or Jesus as "religious". I say there's a big difference between b eing religious and being a faithful servant of God. Very big difference. Icke believes that we're in some sort of hologram, and that we "are" consciousness (ie: are God, experiencing itself), etc -- while totally removing God (the creator) out of the picture. So, David Icke's theories don't cut it for me. I have listened to him extensively. He sounds very "New Age" (at times) to me, even though I've heard him rebuke the New Age Movement more than once.

[Knuckles]

I agree with you on Gorilla199, I've spoke to him a few times on a love blog, generally nice guy and has alot of usefull info, too quick to label someone as a freemason for just 1 single hor hand or winged disk etc.  Authough his 'mark of the beast', authough I don't believe that is the mark, I do think it is 'a' mark of significance, it is in stuff.  Amsterdam being the most overt.   I'm not saying that against G199 though, he's cool.

i don't trust Icke, i think again he is truth mixed with error, new agey etc, who's side is he on?

[Leonard]

I agree with you on Gorilla199, I've spoke to him a few times on a love blog, generally nice guy and has alot of usefull info, too quick to label someone as a freemason for just 1 single hor hand or winged disk etc.  Authough his 'mark of the beast', authough I don't believe that is the mark, I do think it is 'a' mark of significance, it is in stuff.  Amsterdam being the most overt.   I'm not saying that against G199 though, he's cool.

i don't trust Icke, i think again he is truth mixed with error, new agey etc, who's side is he on?

Yeas, he's too quick to shout: "MASON!", and with Icke, yeah -- a lot of New Age philosophies mixes in with what he says. It amazes me that he says he can't stand the new age movement. He's a part of it as far as I can see. But maybe that's hos whole point. To try to make out that what he's saying is not New Age, when it is.

[InfoMedicAu]

Here's my discoveries...

People label Alex Jones as a disinformation hoaxter, run by the Jesuit order... But without any proof. People who have just began to listen to Alex, will notice that he doesn't often talk about the Jesuit order or the Vatican / Knights Templar.. But he has before.
Some think he's dis-info because he doesn't talk about UFOs. In my opinion he doesn't have to.

David Icke is very well spoken. Some think he's a Freemason haha! Again, no proof. Well, except if you take him sitting in the Masonic temple, is to be taken seriously.

In my opinion, they are explaining this 'NWO' the best way they can.

[Leonard]

Here's my discoveries...

People label Alex Jones as a disinformation hoaxter, run by the Jesuit order... But without any proof. People who have just began to listen to Alex, will notice that he doesn't often talk about the Jesuit order or the Vatican / Knights Templar.. But he has before.
Some think he's dis-info because he doesn't talk about UFOs. In my opinion he doesn't have to.

David Icke is very well spoken. Some think he's a Freemason haha! Again, no proof. Well, except if you take him sitting in the Masonic temple, is to be taken seriously.

In my opinion, they are explaining this 'NWO' the best way they can.

I agree. Both Alex and David speak a lot of truth (particularly Alex). David Icke takes a more spiritual approach, but his theories on how there's no personal God and that we're just infinite consciousness experiencing itself throws me off him. If it wasn't for all that, I'd agree with what he's saying a lot more. Alex acknowledges God and declares himself to be a Christian. So Alex gets 10 out of 10 from me, David Icke gets about 7 out of 10 for accuracy regarding the NWO, etc (but 0 out of 10 for is spiritual beliefs that we're just in a bi hologram, consciousness -- experiencing itself. That's baloney. We're spirit beings that were created by God).

Oh, and welcome to the forums mate. Great to have you here!

[NightAntilli]

I agree. Both Alex and David speak a lot of truth (particularly Alex). David Icke takes a more spiritual approach, but his theories on how there's no personal God and that we're just infinite consciousness experiencing itself throws me off him. If it wasn't for all that, I'd agree with what he's saying a lot more. Alex acknowledges God and declares himself to be a Christian. So Alex gets 10 out of 10 from me, David Icke gets about 7 out of 10 for accuracy regarding the NWO, etc (but 0 out of 10 for is spiritual beliefs that we're just in a bi hologram, consciousness -- experiencing itself. That's baloney. We're spirit beings that were created by God).

Oh, and welcome to the forums mate. Great to have you here!

And that's the exact reason why I prefer David Icke over Alex Jones......

[InfoMedicAu]

I agree. Both Alex and David speak a lot of truth (particularly Alex). David Icke takes a more spiritual approach, but his theories on how there's no personal God and that we're just infinite consciousness experiencing itself throws me off him. If it wasn't for all that, I'd agree with what he's saying a lot more. Alex acknowledges God and declares himself to be a Christian. So Alex gets 10 out of 10 from me, David Icke gets about 7 out of 10 for accuracy regarding the NWO, etc (but 0 out of 10 for is spiritual beliefs that we're just in a bi hologram, consciousness -- experiencing itself. That's baloney. We're spirit beings that were created by God).

Oh, and welcome to the forums mate. Great to have you here!

And that's the exact reason why I prefer David Icke over Alex Jones......

Icke needs his own radio show. He does go on Coast to Coast or the infowars show. Still, it would be great.

& Great to be here!

[Leonard]

And that's the exact reason why I prefer David Icke over Alex Jones......

Yes, and I am reasonably sure that a lot of other people like David Icke for that very reason. He fits right in with the New Age crowd, who've also convinced themselves that somehow, they're the ones that have all the power to shape their eternal destiny without God. Funny thing is though, none of them seem to be able to remember creating themselves.

[Serge]

Hi Leonard and everyone,

What bothersme with Alex Jones is that he claims to be a Christian who isn't supposed to be afraid of death and yet, pumps everyone with fears of the enemy, doesn't glorify Christ nor encourages anyone to turn to Christ as a real Christian should do as commanded in the Word of God in the Bible.

As Christians, we are taught to test the spirits and to verify the fruits and let me tell you that if Jones knew his Bible, he would laugh at the deceived elites NWO knowing that Christ Jesus will squish that NWO nonsense and install His 1000 year reign with His Theocracy.

When i was not walking with the Lord, i would listen to Jones' conspiracies and i must admit that there is a lot of truth to it if you're looking for human guilty parties but look higher for there is a war in the unseen spiritual that has repercussions in the human and materialistic realm in which we live.

4 hours of Bible reading is worth more in spiritual warfare than all the Alex Jones show combined throughout his whole career.,