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« on: January 14, 2010, 11:38:33 AM »

I thought this might be a usefull poll, I know the 5 options can overlap into the big fat deception but this is an attempt to isolate the worst aspects and learn from them etc.
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2010, 02:06:49 PM »

Mine goes to the NWO one.
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2010, 02:58:48 PM »

I chose that we can become God. My reasoning is because that's what Satan wanted in the first place. That's what caused this whole mess on this earth in the first place. That is the single, most dangerous decision that was ever made, by anyone (or anything). Now, look at the carnage that we're living in. Everything else falls under that -- including the "Satan isn't real" lie. Satan just doesn't want people to think he's real so that people are more easy to manipulate. The vast majority of people being manipulated by Satan, don't even realise it, because they don't believe he's real. Oh, but many people believe that "aliens" are real and are coming to save us (all driven by Satan), so I guess you could say than many people actually do believe Satan is real, but don't even realise it. What a mixed up world.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2010, 02:35:15 AM »

I think the third one drives the others in away.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2010, 04:08:01 AM »

I think the third one drives the others in away.

Exactly. If we could just get things right in that department, the rest would never have been a problem.
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2010, 02:42:48 AM »

I'm sure if you asked anybody in Hell it would be "Satan isn't real".
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2010, 03:20:16 AM »

I'm sure if you asked anybody in Hell it would be "Satan isn't real".

Exactly. Satan knows that if he is to deceive everyone, his best bet is to ensure that no one truly believes that he actually exists. For if people actually "knew", they would certainly not serve him -- regardless of what form he chooses to assume; whether it be aliens, an angel of light -- or anything else.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2010, 10:59:15 PM »

My "other": The Single biggest lie is that the truth (to all that is) is "outside" you, and not inside in the very same place that you will meet God.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2010, 11:02:49 PM »

My "other": The Single biggest lie is that the truth (to all that is) is "outside" you, and not inside in the very same place that you will meet God.

Do you mean: as opposed to believing that all the answers lie within? ie: Are you saying that we should not be looking to God (because he's outside of us), but then also saying that He is inside of us? I am not sure I understand your response.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2010, 09:45:23 PM »

My "other": The Single biggest lie is that the truth (to all that is) is "outside" you, and not inside in the very same place that you will meet God.

Do you mean: as opposed to believing that all the answers lie within? ie: Are you saying that we should not be looking to God (because he's outside of us), but then also saying that He is inside of us? I am not sure I understand your response.

I have made a post today that states my perspective on "God". From that it can be seen that there is no difference.

To elaborate, I maintain that there is no 100% reliable source of information that can be communicated to you from outside of you - it may contain truth but it cannot be 100% undistorted. However, your connection to "God" is within. That said, in my view as stated elsewhere today, the one infinite creator is all there is and is therefore both without and within, the focus of individuation and what makes you you and not God, is within, where the connection lies, and that is where the infallible source of truth is to be contacted.

Thanks for asking.

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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2010, 10:53:26 PM »

I have made a post today that states my perspective on "God". From that it can be seen that there is no difference.

To elaborate, I maintain that there is no 100% reliable source of information that can be communicated to you from outside of you - it may contain truth but it cannot be 100% undistorted. However, your connection to "God" is within. That said, in my view as stated elsewhere today, the one infinite creator is all there is and is therefore both without and within, the focus of individuation and what makes you you and not God, is within, where the connection lies, and that is where the infallible source of truth is to be contacted.

Thanks for asking.

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Ok, my way of saying that is that God is the creator and we're the created. It's a lot simpler to say it that way.
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2010, 11:10:59 PM »

Ok, my way of saying that is that God is the creator and we're the created. It's a lot simpler to say it that way.

It doesn't mean the same thing though - my view is that we are not separate - we experience it because that is necessary for our learning/evolution. The separateness is the illusion/cage/trap we are in. Jesus refers (John 10:30) - he sets the goal we can aspire to acheive. I aspire to be that pure that my identity and connection is perfect - got a ways to go though.
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2010, 11:22:04 PM »

God cannot stand the sight of sin and we cannot be in the sign of God, while we are fallen. We are currently cut off from God. We're a part of a branch that has been cut off and is dying. God sustains us, because he loves us -- but without intervention, we're marching straight toward death.

Thankfully, Jesus has become the bridge back to God (which is also why Jesus is Lord). If we accept that Jesus is Lord and that he died for our sins and paid the price for us (as well as repent of those sins, which is in our very nature, right down to the marrow of our bones), we can be grafted back onto the living vine. That's what's most important -- to direct our paths according to God's righteousness.

"I aspire to be that pure that my identity and connection is perfect"..

See above.
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2010, 02:27:06 AM »

One phrase I never understood is "Jesus is Lord". What does that actually mean? Could you please define the word "Lord" and explain to me, what the whole phrase actually is supposed to mean? Or maybe, Lord of what exactly?
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2010, 07:08:10 AM »

Jesus, or more accuretly Yahshuwah is the creator of Heavan and Earth in the flesh, in human form.  So He is the Almightly, he is also the Almighty's Son because YHWH / Yahway (God) partially emptied himself to be human which is why he still needed to pray etc whilst on earth with this sinfull nature of ours.  it's a little hard to understand at first I know.  God of universe and Son of God at same time.

LORD, is actually a dodgy pagan word in my opinion, same as the word God and Jesus, authough I still use them as it's taking a while to transision myself with such perticulars.


basically, Lord of your life, Lord, Master, Boss, Teacher, General, Commander, Almighty, THE ONE etc etc.

So Jesus or Yahshuwah is 'Lord' of the universe, King of kings and Lord of Lords!

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