Why Was FreedomWorshop Created? Who is the forum for?

[Leonard]

As a Christian, I am open to "discuss" just about everything. See, the reason behind that is that there's a lot of things that are going on in this world that can't be ignored. For example, when one wakes up in the middle of the night, having their whole head crushed in (as I have), and waking up injured -- and when one takes photos of the sky (and the moon) and sees objects that can't be explained, when when one wakes up with a HOLE in their leg, and has suffered and endured hundreds of other paranormal things which no one can explain, it's pretty hard to say: "Oh, can't discuss that -- that's not in the Bible".

I have trouble on forums not just on the New Age / Disclosure / Conspiracy type websites, but also on the Christian ones as well. The secular websites will tell me that they do not want to hear ANY viewpoint that takes the Bible into account. If I try to mention anything from the Bible, they pull me up on it and disregard the broader point I'm trying to make within the thread and, instead, concentrate their efforts solely on discrediting the Bible -- which is very unconstructive (not to mention boring, because I've seen AND ANSWERED the same, tired old "religious debate" questions thousands of times, and they never change. I'm off it).

The Christian forums will often say: "Yes, but did God personally ask you to do (insert: this that or the other)?", or: "Is that what God had called you to do?". And my answer is: Well no, not specifically. But on that note, God didn't specifically ask me to tie my shoes this morning, visit the beach yesterday at 5:00am to take photos of the sunrise, or to buy a LG phone instead of a Nokia. These things are just a part of life. You don't have to have a "calling" to do absolutely everything you do in life. A lot of things are just a plain part of life.

That's what this forum is about. It's just a plain part of life, where I would like to discuss the things in the world. Of course, I believe that the Bible is the word of God, and the spiritual message in the Bible (along with the relationship I have developed with God through reading it) are a large foundation for how I direct my research. But that doesn't mean just because I am willing to  discuss things that are happening in the world (that are taboo to many well meaning Christians), that I am "delving into the dark side" or anything.

A Christian will tell me that discussing "Astrology" is delving, but not if it's from the viewpoint that God warns against such things in the Bible. And that's where the arguments put forward n "my" discussion will be founded. The same goes for "channeling" or "praying to angels". I might very well go and make a topic called "Channeling and Praying to Angels". A Christian might look at that and say: "Oh my, look at the things he's DISCUSSING over at that forum!". However, once they get inside, they'd see me offer my understanding that, in the Bible, God has warned us not to pray to heavenly entities, but only to pray to him. So therefore, I would make a case AGAINST all forms of channeling and divination.

Sure, the New Agers are welcome here to talk about how they see things and to disagree with me, but I am only going to disagree with them back. Otherwise, how are unsuspecting New Agers that have never heard God's word going to understand that according to the Bible, God has warned against such things? On top of that, I would offer my personal experience, that practicing astral projection and reading books about wizardry and other things (as I once did), will lead to a WORLD of hurt (as I know, first hand). plus, there's a lot of people who are wrapped up in New Age philosophies that don't even realise it. They don't even realise what the New Ager Movement actually is. I know this, because I used to be one of those people. Not all people who practice New Age philosophies are against God or have anything against God, they've just never been informed that the things they're involved with are against God's wishes, according to the Bible.

This is why a forum is needed where people, with all views can come to discuss things. A secular forum full of Atheists and New Ager's is no good to a Christian (and I know that, full well, from being a member of dozens of forums). The reason is because a Christian can't say much there before people start complaining. They don't want to hear about God or the Bible and they'll try to shut you down. Then, they'll purposefully follow you around, taunting you and mocking you until either a). A moderator will step in and blame you for the disruption or b). You'll finally do your block and say something that even remotely warrants a ban. The moderators will "usually" be very quick on the ban trigger, because they (more often than not) will share the sentiments of the group that was following you around.

I could very easily make this forum a "Christian" only forum. However, that would limit my whole purpose behind the forum. Although I am a Christian, and I do read the Bible and I do love God and pray, and I do my best to try to live a life that is pleasing to God, this forum is not a "ministry". That's not to say that I don't fellowship, or discuss God with others or have Christian friends. That's not to say I don't spent time explaining to people why I read the Bible and what they could get out of it. It just means that this forum is a part of my life and that (while keeping in line with trying to live my life in a manner which is pleasing to God), I want to speak with ANYONE that has experienced the things that I have, or seen the things that I have. There's a lot of people with a lot of useful information, and they're not all Christian.

Additionally, if there are members here that have suffered as I have, I would urge them to consider how I found peace. Before I developed a relationship with God, I used to suffer GREATLY with unseen entities attacking and manipulating me. I know, a lot of people (who don't believe in God, or the Bible) will say that it was all in my mind, but I have to categorically state that it was not. I was physically injured more than once. I KNOW for a fact that my relationship with God saved me from being beating to within an inch of my life, many times. I can't prove that, but if there's someone else in this world that is suffering the same attacks, they would very likely want to at least hear me out.

There's a lot of reasons why I am willing to discuss "everything". There are many Christian forums online which have been designed especially for online fellowship and Bible study. If I want to do that, I'll go over to their forums. Plus, it's blatantly obvious that a Christian is unwelcome on a secular forum full of New Agers and atheists, so I can't post there about my experiences, because it's never long before I am hunted down and digitally murdered. So, that's where this forum comes in handy. It's MY forum. I can discuss what I like, with whom I like, and there's no moderators here to unfairly snip, delete, move or edit my posts, or to infract, suspend or ban me if I get stroppy about their actions.

I believe myself to be a very fair person, who isn't a power hungry administration with itchy ban and delete fingers. I just want everyone to be able to come along here and discuss their experiences and the things ion the world, and for everyone to get along and respect each other. I will offer my view (which includes God). If others want to come here and state that they were visited by a 12 foot reptilian names Zorlock, as long as they do it respectfully, I wont have a problem with it. However, I will probably insist that Zorlock is actually a demon, which I will expect the poster to offer a reasonable response in return. ie: If they do not believe it is a demon, I'd like to hear how they came to that conclusion and why. "Oh, you're just a Bible thumping nut case. Look wt what your God did, killed everyone with fire and brimstone!" -- isn't going to cut it, and will probably lead to a special PM from me, asking the poster to remain objective and stick to the topic.

[Sarah]

I understand your dismay with websites, I've had better conversations with myself. I've been thrown out of most Christian sites. I've found more tolerance at the New Age ones, who'd rather hummorize me . I've found them all to be very narrow minded. There's never any room for communication outside of their own little boxes. This is a very big problem for real Christians. There's nobody to talk to except the Holy Spirit, and although "he's" our greatest source of information and comfort, being alone tends to divide and separate us to the point of despair. I can only say that this alienation is necessary because it builds the strength that's required for us to stand against the Lie.
 
Many years ago I was a member of CE4 Research. It's a Christian group which teaches abductees how to stop their abductions.  I helped a lot of people free themselves, but I didn't quite fit into their description.  I stopped my experiences by confronting the demonic being and telling him I knew who he was. This didn't go over very well because the group claimed I didn't cast the demon out in Jesus name,,,,,,,,,, Idiots, that's exactly what I did. I USED THE TRUTH AGAINST THE ENTITY.  The Bible says resist the devil and he must flee. These people have no idea who Jesus is. They worship his name, but only with words,,,,

So they eventually removed my testimony from the site and that was that. I think the fact that I discredited their pre-tribulational rapture beliefs also aided in my excommunication, The icing on the cake was more than likely my worship of God alone....... Fools, None of them had ever heard a testimony as powerful as mine yet because I didn't bow to their beliefs I was no longer good enough to represent their cause. The proof will come in the end when I retain my faith and they all fall away.............. As you can imagine I was very disturbed over this as well as other claims that I was a heretic. Again, we'll see who stands and who falls..................

[Leonard]

I understand your dismay with websites, I've had better conversations with myself. I've been thrown out of most Christian sites. I've found more tolerance at the New Age ones, who'd rather hummorize me . I've found them all to be very narrow minded. There's never any room for communication outside of their own little boxes. This is a very big problem for real Christians. There's nobody to talk to except the Holy Spirit, and although "he's" our greatest source of information and comfort, being alone tends to divide and separate us to the point of despair. I can only say that this alienation is necessary because it builds the strength that's required for us to stand against the Lie.

I have problems posting on forums that are full of New Age people (note: They're not necessarily "New Age" forums, they just contain subjects that a lot of New Age people are interested in), and I have been booted out of a whole heap of them, because my whole life experience involves the Bible, God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit - and they get all upset when I mention those things. In almost all cases, I am not "preaching" (although I have nothing against preaching), but I am just trying to convey my experiences. They hear the name "Jesus" and take exception to it. It demonstrates to me where their heart really is, and who they do truly worship -- and it ain't Jesus, I can tell you that right now.

As for Christian forums, I don't have as much trouble on them, but I find many (so called) Christians are far to quick to accuse and rebuke. It's as if, on many Christian forums, it's a competition to see who can "spot the Satan" the quickest. It's like a competition to see who "knows the most" or who has a greater relationship with God. In many cases, love takes a back seat. So, I generally don't hang around Christian forums much either. I am registered on many, and I pop in from time to time, and there are some great Christians on them, who sincerely love God (and aren't full of accusation and rebuke, 24/7), but all in all, I get tired of such forums too.

All I want is a place where people can talk about their experience, without arguing or belittling others. That's what this forum is for. I've already had one person leave in a huff, because he thinks I just want t "attack" him. However, all I was doing was pointing out what I understand about the Bible, and warning him against influences of the devil. There's a difference between explaining (putting forward) a viewpoint, and attacking someone. Although a lot of the time, when people hear the "truth", even if it's put forward in a friendly format, it hurts. So people get all upset. One sign that people are not comfortable with their own beliefs, is if you offer a contradictory view, they will become angry or bitter. I am comfortable with my love for God and His word, the Bible. Therefore, if someone says something contradictory, I simply respond (in a friendly manner)n which how I disagree and what I actually do believe. I wish more people could do that.
 

Many years ago I was a member of CE4 Research. It's a Christian group which teaches abductees how to stop their abductions.  I helped a lot of people free themselves, but I didn't quite fit into their description.  I stopped my experiences by confronting the demonic being and telling him I knew who he was. This didn't go over very well because the group claimed I didn't cast the demon out in Jesus name,,,,,,,,,, Idiots, that's exactly what I did. I USED THE TRUTH AGAINST THE ENTITY.  The Bible says resist the devil and he must flee. These people have no idea who Jesus is. They worship his name, but only with words,,,,

When I read your story, and when I read that you looked at the UFO and say: "I know who you are Satan", I didn't take exception to that. It didn't even occur to me that you didn't specifically "rebuke" Satan in the name of jesus. What I understood is that you had been reading the Bible and had learned. By telling Satan that you knew who he was, that shows Satan that you have been reading the Bible and have developed a relationship with God -- which is why the UFO dissapeared. Which is also why it didn't turn away. The only way you COULD have known it was Satan, is if you'd been reading the Bible and getting closer to God.

Besides, that is your testimonial. That is your story. At that time, you didn't rebuke Satan in the name of Jesus. I am sure that's not to say you WOULDN'T to that in future, but at that particular time, in your story, you didn't. I don't see a problem with that. It's not like you're arguing that you don't need Jesus to rebuke Satan. Besides, Jesus also responded to Satan by using the words of the anient texts.

So they eventually removed my testimony from the site and that was that. I think the fact that I discredited their pre-tribulational rapture beliefs also aided in my excommunication, The icing on the cake was more than likely my worship of God alone....... Fools, None of them had ever heard a testimony as powerful as mine yet because I didn't bow to their beliefs I was no longer good enough to represent their cause. The proof will come in the end when I retain my faith and they all fall away.............. As you can imagine I was very disturbed over this as well as other claims that I was a heretic. Again, we'll see who stands and who falls..................

The way I see things, if you have a genuine love for God and also other people (which are the two greatest commandments), and if you study the Bible, and understand that Satan comes in all forms (ie: UFO's, aliens), and tell others about these things, you're going the right way about things. Well, that's what I am doing. I'm not saying that all weird things in the sky are demons. I am sure that there's some secret project, man made stuff. I'm sure that there's simply some phenomena that we don't understand too, and that it's not "demons", and of course God himself uses the sky to show signs. But all in all, this whole UFO / alien / New Age / Federation of Light story is demonic and it's a deception. That's what I believe.